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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by kbehan</title>
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		<description>Finally, due to Pavlovian conditioning, the infant pup is imprinted via associations, that external objects of attraction are synonymous with its physical center of gravity when it hungers for said object. For the rest of its life, projecting the physical cog onto objects via this imprint, is how the principle of emotional conductivity is implemented in complex interactions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, due to Pavlovian conditioning, the infant pup is imprinted via associations, that external objects of attraction are synonymous with its physical center of gravity when it hungers for said object. For the rest of its life, projecting the physical cog onto objects via this imprint, is how the principle of emotional conductivity is implemented in complex interactions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by kbehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to follow through on your question &quot;negative grants access to positive? ...sounds like the negative grants dog the access to himself.&quot; Yes, those are the same statements. The dog projects its physical center of gravity onto the form of what it is attracted to, and then it wants/needs to reconnect with its &quot;self.&quot; It has no idea that the head of the form is connected to the body it&#039;s projected into, because it feels what it does on its insides, the thing is inside of it as far as it can experience and make sense of what&#039;s happening and the dog can go from two distinct frames of reference (electrical or magnetic) and have two completely different experiences. For example, the fearful dog that is affectionate with a guest in the house as long as they are sitting, but the instant they stand up it attacks. The body of what it desires IS its body as far as it can ever know and its eyes can quite literally disconnect it from its &quot;self.&quot; Then if heart runs the show, then physical memory is computed as a lump sum quantitative emotional ballast as counterbalance and they can synchronize because all the variables are now held in a single frame of reference and as one wave form, each the counterbalance to the other, each emotionally inducting energy in the other so that by being in sync they realize more pleasure than they can get by singular action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to follow through on your question &#8220;negative grants access to positive? &#8230;sounds like the negative grants dog the access to himself.&#8221; Yes, those are the same statements. The dog projects its physical center of gravity onto the form of what it is attracted to, and then it wants/needs to reconnect with its &#8220;self.&#8221; It has no idea that the head of the form is connected to the body it&#8217;s projected into, because it feels what it does on its insides, the thing is inside of it as far as it can experience and make sense of what&#8217;s happening and the dog can go from two distinct frames of reference (electrical or magnetic) and have two completely different experiences. For example, the fearful dog that is affectionate with a guest in the house as long as they are sitting, but the instant they stand up it attacks. The body of what it desires IS its body as far as it can ever know and its eyes can quite literally disconnect it from its &#8220;self.&#8221; Then if heart runs the show, then physical memory is computed as a lump sum quantitative emotional ballast as counterbalance and they can synchronize because all the variables are now held in a single frame of reference and as one wave form, each the counterbalance to the other, each emotionally inducting energy in the other so that by being in sync they realize more pleasure than they can get by singular action.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by kbehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, the more the animal is aroused, the more it is vulnerable as these two are inextricably linked via hunger/balance as source of consciousness, and so the dog focuses on the eyes as the source of the most intense pressure, and therefore that element which must be reconciled in order for it to feel safe to go forward. The reason the hind end isn&#039;t connected to the front end is to implement this principle of conductivity, it&#039;s the same reason the government doesn&#039;t allow us to print our own money, if we had autonomous access to money, then it would be worthless and there couldn&#039;t not be an economy. So if animals were independent autonomous entities of consciousness, then there wouldn&#039;t be any ecosystems and no evolution. The point in knowing this for training is to remove all the judgments we carry against dogs and which come into play during the course of training, as in the dog &quot;knows&quot; this or that, or is &quot;blowing&quot; us off, or is dominating us or trying to please us, or showing us respect and all of that irrelevant stuff that gets in the way of understanding that dog and owner form one energy circuit. By understanding that the hind/end vs. front/end makeup is an energy circuit, this allows us to master the laws of nature and insert ourselves into the dog&#039;s mind as an energy circuit, i.e. be the ground for its energy, according to the principle of emotional conductivity rather than human reason. 
So the eyes put the dog in touch with its physical center of gravity and all physical memory that has accumulated around it (meanwhile the heart computes the calculus of all this so as to predict where energy is GOING TO BE ) and it experiences that pressure, which can collapse into a state of hunger in best case scenario and dog has a positive experience. 
The dog&#039;s name travels along this subliminal beam actuated by the focus of its handler, and so we see a dog become extremely energized by the sound of its name and yes, this is how it feels whole if it can come into resonance with the source of this pressure. 
The reason I use food isn&#039;t for reinforcement value per se, but to invoke the hunger circuitry so that the dog learns to collapse from front end electrical pressure, to hunger orientation and thereby feel grounded into the source of this energy. And then on a higher level of elaboration, if the hunger orientation is strong enough, the dog can then reference its heart to evoke a UNIFORM state of tension and divine center mass of what it&#039;s attracted to in order to conduct the calculus of potential energy, and thus a complex chain of actions that will allow it to not only synchronize, but &quot;anticipate&quot; where energy is going to be. I think you&#039;re getting close to understanding how the mind works so Keep On Pushing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, the more the animal is aroused, the more it is vulnerable as these two are inextricably linked via hunger/balance as source of consciousness, and so the dog focuses on the eyes as the source of the most intense pressure, and therefore that element which must be reconciled in order for it to feel safe to go forward. The reason the hind end isn&#8217;t connected to the front end is to implement this principle of conductivity, it&#8217;s the same reason the government doesn&#8217;t allow us to print our own money, if we had autonomous access to money, then it would be worthless and there couldn&#8217;t not be an economy. So if animals were independent autonomous entities of consciousness, then there wouldn&#8217;t be any ecosystems and no evolution. The point in knowing this for training is to remove all the judgments we carry against dogs and which come into play during the course of training, as in the dog &#8220;knows&#8221; this or that, or is &#8220;blowing&#8221; us off, or is dominating us or trying to please us, or showing us respect and all of that irrelevant stuff that gets in the way of understanding that dog and owner form one energy circuit. By understanding that the hind/end vs. front/end makeup is an energy circuit, this allows us to master the laws of nature and insert ourselves into the dog&#8217;s mind as an energy circuit, i.e. be the ground for its energy, according to the principle of emotional conductivity rather than human reason.<br />
So the eyes put the dog in touch with its physical center of gravity and all physical memory that has accumulated around it (meanwhile the heart computes the calculus of all this so as to predict where energy is GOING TO BE ) and it experiences that pressure, which can collapse into a state of hunger in best case scenario and dog has a positive experience.<br />
The dog&#8217;s name travels along this subliminal beam actuated by the focus of its handler, and so we see a dog become extremely energized by the sound of its name and yes, this is how it feels whole if it can come into resonance with the source of this pressure.<br />
The reason I use food isn&#8217;t for reinforcement value per se, but to invoke the hunger circuitry so that the dog learns to collapse from front end electrical pressure, to hunger orientation and thereby feel grounded into the source of this energy. And then on a higher level of elaboration, if the hunger orientation is strong enough, the dog can then reference its heart to evoke a UNIFORM state of tension and divine center mass of what it&#8217;s attracted to in order to conduct the calculus of potential energy, and thus a complex chain of actions that will allow it to not only synchronize, but &#8220;anticipate&#8221; where energy is going to be. I think you&#8217;re getting close to understanding how the mind works so Keep On Pushing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by Adam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I think I&#039;m starting to understand better. So the dog or predator searches for the eyes, because it feels that this area resists and reflects energy back upon itself, producing the subliminal beam, and enabling the dog to feel his body. I guess I can relate to this...maybe it&#039;s like making eye contact with someone you are attracted to, and feeling a sort of intensity (pressure) inside of you. But the negative grants access to the positive? It sounds like the negative grants the dog access to himself...
And I&#039;m a bit unclear about &quot;this means the front end isn&#039;t connected to the hind end.&quot; Are you saying that the subliminal beam literally travels from front to hind end of the dog&#039;s body, connecting him and giving him a feeling of wholeness?
Finally...so if this eye contact exercise is done with a dog and food...you are using Pavlovian conditioning to make the dog associate its memories and emotions, (activated through the subliminal beam), with you the owner..? I guess I&#039;m looking for what it accomplishes in training. Understanding the end result might help me with grasping the process behind all of it. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I think I&#8217;m starting to understand better. So the dog or predator searches for the eyes, because it feels that this area resists and reflects energy back upon itself, producing the subliminal beam, and enabling the dog to feel his body. I guess I can relate to this&#8230;maybe it&#8217;s like making eye contact with someone you are attracted to, and feeling a sort of intensity (pressure) inside of you. But the negative grants access to the positive? It sounds like the negative grants the dog access to himself&#8230;<br />
And I&#8217;m a bit unclear about &#8220;this means the front end isn&#8217;t connected to the hind end.&#8221; Are you saying that the subliminal beam literally travels from front to hind end of the dog&#8217;s body, connecting him and giving him a feeling of wholeness?<br />
Finally&#8230;so if this eye contact exercise is done with a dog and food&#8230;you are using Pavlovian conditioning to make the dog associate its memories and emotions, (activated through the subliminal beam), with you the owner..? I guess I&#8217;m looking for what it accomplishes in training. Understanding the end result might help me with grasping the process behind all of it. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by kbehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, the principle of emotional conductivity accounts for the two fundamental questions of survival, What is the prey? and Where is the predator? And then the confluence of these two values via a sensual/sexual nature allows them to elaborate into an infinite gradation of social responses and cooperative teamwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, the principle of emotional conductivity accounts for the two fundamental questions of survival, What is the prey? and Where is the predator? And then the confluence of these two values via a sensual/sexual nature allows them to elaborate into an infinite gradation of social responses and cooperative teamwork.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by kbehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought of Deja Vu in terms of physical memory but that makes sense, two intensity values match up and one feels as if they have already experienced it. I&#039;m not sure if that is a whole accounting of the phenomenon in humans but it could easily have something to do with it, as in setting the stage for a telepathic occurrence. But I think you&#039;re exactly right that this is exactly how the dog feels when it&#039;s in a situation that energetically is consonant with a physical memory. He does indeed see, hear, touch, taste what he once saw, heard, touched and/or tasted just as if he is reliving it anew. And yes this consonance is what ties moments together so that the dog feels a pull to his owner every time he approaches the door, the dog feels that by going to the door, he pulls the owner toward him, just as if he were moving a game piece by a magnet held beneath the game board, by going to the door. I think you can see how this is profoundly distinct from conscious, purposeful understanding. For example, the cat has no IDEA how to catch a mouse even if it has caught a thousand of them. All it knows is what it feels. It lays still 100 concentrating on holding the hole in the wall and the void at the pit of its stomach in one frame of reference, and if it can still itself and completely focus on that subliminal beam of Will, then as if by magic the mouse walks into its waiting jaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought of Deja Vu in terms of physical memory but that makes sense, two intensity values match up and one feels as if they have already experienced it. I&#8217;m not sure if that is a whole accounting of the phenomenon in humans but it could easily have something to do with it, as in setting the stage for a telepathic occurrence. But I think you&#8217;re exactly right that this is exactly how the dog feels when it&#8217;s in a situation that energetically is consonant with a physical memory. He does indeed see, hear, touch, taste what he once saw, heard, touched and/or tasted just as if he is reliving it anew. And yes this consonance is what ties moments together so that the dog feels a pull to his owner every time he approaches the door, the dog feels that by going to the door, he pulls the owner toward him, just as if he were moving a game piece by a magnet held beneath the game board, by going to the door. I think you can see how this is profoundly distinct from conscious, purposeful understanding. For example, the cat has no IDEA how to catch a mouse even if it has caught a thousand of them. All it knows is what it feels. It lays still 100 concentrating on holding the hole in the wall and the void at the pit of its stomach in one frame of reference, and if it can still itself and completely focus on that subliminal beam of Will, then as if by magic the mouse walks into its waiting jaws.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by kbehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we first look at it from the practical, evolutionary point of view the sense of negative as access to positive becomes obvious, (although that by itself doesn&#039;t explain what&#039;s going on inside the dog&#039;s mind).  For example, the predator stalking the prey is 100% aware of where the prey is looking otherwise the prey will run to cover if the predator is detected before close enough to strike. Note how the cat freezes into position when the mouse looks up to scan the horizon. So where the prey looks grants access to the predator to the prey&#039;s body. By the same token the prey is 100% aware of where the predator is focused since this is the difference between its life or death as well. How then are these practical benefits executed in the design of the animal mind? 
The animal mind evolved in accord with the principle of emotional conductivity. Emotion can only move from predator to prey polarity, just as heat can only move from high concentration to less, or electrons to ground, or magnetic north to magnetic south. So if a dog were to make prey on that which doesn&#039;t act like prey, then it ends up with more charge than it began with and feels more incomplete than before. Just like a dog can discern by smell which way a track is going, (intensification of scent) he can likewise feel that this kind of behavior is inefficient because he feels more and more electrified and so it&#039;s axiomatic that he will become sensitized to the eye of the being to which he feels attracted as the source of this electricity. He will also become sensitized to his physical center of gravity at the moment of birth when he leaves the realm of weightlessness and arrives in the weighted world of planet earth. Thereafter all emotional charge accretes around the physical center of gravity. 
Nature is digitized in that there is that which absorbs and conducts emotion, the preyful aspect, and this is anything of the body, and then there is that which reflects and resists emotion, the predatory aspect, which is particularly the eyes. When an animal encounters resistance to its expression of emotion into clear, straightforward behaviors, the physical memory of this resistance coalesces around its physical center of gravity due to the split beam of attention mentioned in another post, specifically, the subliminal beam focused on the physical center-of-gravity. IT TAKES AN EXTERNAL TRIGGER TO ACTUATE THIS SUBLIMINAL BEAM.  In other words, that which caused the resistance is necessary to activate the memory of resistance and so therefore an individual is innately motivated to study the eyes of other beings (because this resists the projection of emotion and reflects it back, pings a ping right back at it increasing the experience of pressure) for access to their own physical center of gravity and a sense of their own physical body and how it is orienting in time and space. This means that the front end isn&#039;t connected to the hind end and so it pivots around the eyes or negative in order to align its self with the object of attraction. (Sensuality allows this principle of emotional conductivity to elaborate to the highest reaches of feeling so as to compose a group mind.) All this maneuvering must subscribe to the principle of emotional conductivity, i.e. become the equal and opposite of what it&#039;s attracted to in order for energy to move between them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we first look at it from the practical, evolutionary point of view the sense of negative as access to positive becomes obvious, (although that by itself doesn&#8217;t explain what&#8217;s going on inside the dog&#8217;s mind).  For example, the predator stalking the prey is 100% aware of where the prey is looking otherwise the prey will run to cover if the predator is detected before close enough to strike. Note how the cat freezes into position when the mouse looks up to scan the horizon. So where the prey looks grants access to the predator to the prey&#8217;s body. By the same token the prey is 100% aware of where the predator is focused since this is the difference between its life or death as well. How then are these practical benefits executed in the design of the animal mind?<br />
The animal mind evolved in accord with the principle of emotional conductivity. Emotion can only move from predator to prey polarity, just as heat can only move from high concentration to less, or electrons to ground, or magnetic north to magnetic south. So if a dog were to make prey on that which doesn&#8217;t act like prey, then it ends up with more charge than it began with and feels more incomplete than before. Just like a dog can discern by smell which way a track is going, (intensification of scent) he can likewise feel that this kind of behavior is inefficient because he feels more and more electrified and so it&#8217;s axiomatic that he will become sensitized to the eye of the being to which he feels attracted as the source of this electricity. He will also become sensitized to his physical center of gravity at the moment of birth when he leaves the realm of weightlessness and arrives in the weighted world of planet earth. Thereafter all emotional charge accretes around the physical center of gravity.<br />
Nature is digitized in that there is that which absorbs and conducts emotion, the preyful aspect, and this is anything of the body, and then there is that which reflects and resists emotion, the predatory aspect, which is particularly the eyes. When an animal encounters resistance to its expression of emotion into clear, straightforward behaviors, the physical memory of this resistance coalesces around its physical center of gravity due to the split beam of attention mentioned in another post, specifically, the subliminal beam focused on the physical center-of-gravity. IT TAKES AN EXTERNAL TRIGGER TO ACTUATE THIS SUBLIMINAL BEAM.  In other words, that which caused the resistance is necessary to activate the memory of resistance and so therefore an individual is innately motivated to study the eyes of other beings (because this resists the projection of emotion and reflects it back, pings a ping right back at it increasing the experience of pressure) for access to their own physical center of gravity and a sense of their own physical body and how it is orienting in time and space. This means that the front end isn&#8217;t connected to the hind end and so it pivots around the eyes or negative in order to align its self with the object of attraction. (Sensuality allows this principle of emotional conductivity to elaborate to the highest reaches of feeling so as to compose a group mind.) All this maneuvering must subscribe to the principle of emotional conductivity, i.e. become the equal and opposite of what it&#8217;s attracted to in order for energy to move between them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I experienced deja vu today and thought that perhaps physical memory is the mechanism behind this phenomenon. The brain intakes a particular intensity value and this matches up with a similar value in the emotional battery. Thus the person attributes this feeling of familiarity with where they are, who they&#039;re with, etc. 
I was thinking though that how I feel in those moments of deja vu, is how the dog feels when he is remembering something. So in your example of the dog learning that the door leads to going outside and going to the bathroom...eventually after multiple repititions, when he feels the need to go to the bathroom, his physical memory will somehow navigate him towards the door....? Not sure about this here. I&#039;m still confused about how he does all of this without conscious, purposeful understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced deja vu today and thought that perhaps physical memory is the mechanism behind this phenomenon. The brain intakes a particular intensity value and this matches up with a similar value in the emotional battery. Thus the person attributes this feeling of familiarity with where they are, who they&#8217;re with, etc.<br />
I was thinking though that how I feel in those moments of deja vu, is how the dog feels when he is remembering something. So in your example of the dog learning that the door leads to going outside and going to the bathroom&#8230;eventually after multiple repititions, when he feels the need to go to the bathroom, his physical memory will somehow navigate him towards the door&#8230;.? Not sure about this here. I&#8217;m still confused about how he does all of this without conscious, purposeful understanding.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still having trouble wrapping my mind around the negative as access to the positive. I just don&#039;t understand how this mechanism can occur without some sort of means-end reasoning. It reminds of the Premack Principle, whereas the dog does a less desirable behavior (looking into your eyes) in order to achieve a more desirable behavior or reward (getting to eat food). I guess I&#039;m trying to understand exactly how the dog feels after this exercise is complete. When energy is mobilized within him, does he have a conscious recollection of where/what will absorb this energy? Like in the Hessian/Be the Moose video...when he saw that deer, what happened inside his body or mind to direct him towards Kevin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still having trouble wrapping my mind around the negative as access to the positive. I just don&#8217;t understand how this mechanism can occur without some sort of means-end reasoning. It reminds of the Premack Principle, whereas the dog does a less desirable behavior (looking into your eyes) in order to achieve a more desirable behavior or reward (getting to eat food). I guess I&#8217;m trying to understand exactly how the dog feels after this exercise is complete. When energy is mobilized within him, does he have a conscious recollection of where/what will absorb this energy? Like in the Hessian/Be the Moose video&#8230;when he saw that deer, what happened inside his body or mind to direct him towards Kevin?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Dogs Aren&#8217;t Stumped By Cars by christine randolph</title>
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		<dc:creator>christine randolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>next:

what does all this mean for training the dogs. especially when the dog is fearful of something, the water, a piece of equipment, other people. obviously there is great potential in the fear and what is a humane and result-oriented way to use this potential.

real life example, my dog was afraid of the dog walk (a piece of agility equipment) so the trainer and I drag my dog across the dog walk, offering her treats in the process but she will not take food until she is off the equipment. it is quite a long piece of equipment and it takes several minutes to get her across it while she is digging her heels in.

we do this twice, she does not improve nor deteriorate, her fear levels stay the same.

a week later she is in agility class again, she goes over the dog walk as though she had never done anything else....

in fact she preferred the dog walk to the other equipment and went back to it when left to her own devices. it seemed as though the only thing she remembered was that she had gotten a ton of treats on that piece of equipment.

so the stuff that dogs are very afraid of becomes the best emotional release for them and therefore becomes more desirable ? 

I guess when the fear is all gone and the episode is forgotten, the dogwalk becomes &quot;just another boring piece of agility equipment&quot;?
 
just initially in the short period after the generation of all this fear, the thing is something special to the dog ?

Obviously if we force the dog against his.her will we have to be sure of what we doing otherwise we are just another Koehler...but it would be wasteful not to use the energy stored in fear.

so, how do i set it up so that it is always a GOOD Fear that actually gets converted into energy more times than not.

the dog has to be insanely hungry for one. what other tips do you have ?

i want to resolve my dog&#039;s fear of water and another dog&#039;s fear of the scooter or bicycle and of people overtaking me on bikes and skis at great speed. I want my dogs to jump off a pier (about 1 meter jump). For all these things I have to currently force my dogs against their will.</description>
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<p>what does all this mean for training the dogs. especially when the dog is fearful of something, the water, a piece of equipment, other people. obviously there is great potential in the fear and what is a humane and result-oriented way to use this potential.</p>
<p>real life example, my dog was afraid of the dog walk (a piece of agility equipment) so the trainer and I drag my dog across the dog walk, offering her treats in the process but she will not take food until she is off the equipment. it is quite a long piece of equipment and it takes several minutes to get her across it while she is digging her heels in.</p>
<p>we do this twice, she does not improve nor deteriorate, her fear levels stay the same.</p>
<p>a week later she is in agility class again, she goes over the dog walk as though she had never done anything else&#8230;.</p>
<p>in fact she preferred the dog walk to the other equipment and went back to it when left to her own devices. it seemed as though the only thing she remembered was that she had gotten a ton of treats on that piece of equipment.</p>
<p>so the stuff that dogs are very afraid of becomes the best emotional release for them and therefore becomes more desirable ? </p>
<p>I guess when the fear is all gone and the episode is forgotten, the dogwalk becomes &#8220;just another boring piece of agility equipment&#8221;?</p>
<p>just initially in the short period after the generation of all this fear, the thing is something special to the dog ?</p>
<p>Obviously if we force the dog against his.her will we have to be sure of what we doing otherwise we are just another Koehler&#8230;but it would be wasteful not to use the energy stored in fear.</p>
<p>so, how do i set it up so that it is always a GOOD Fear that actually gets converted into energy more times than not.</p>
<p>the dog has to be insanely hungry for one. what other tips do you have ?</p>
<p>i want to resolve my dog&#8217;s fear of water and another dog&#8217;s fear of the scooter or bicycle and of people overtaking me on bikes and skis at great speed. I want my dogs to jump off a pier (about 1 meter jump). For all these things I have to currently force my dogs against their will.</p>
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