Moose and Wolf

Angelique sent me the link below. It’s a great example of the attraction that the wolf feels for its “prey” and how once again, the prey-controls-the-predator. Now if I were one to put thoughts in a wolf’s head, the thoughts that would come to mind would be, “Is that you mommy?”

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Published December 6, 2010 by Kevin Behan
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8 responses to “Moose and Wolf”

  1. Christine says:

    Definitely interesting. It looks as if the wolf is being ‘preyful’ and seeing the moose as ‘predator’. I see what you mean by, “Is that you mommy?” Did I see the wolf doing a playbow? Of course, it helps that there was only one wolf! lol

  2. Trisha says:

    What an amazing clip. This show exactly what Kevin always says, the prey is in the predator and the predator is in the prey.

  3. Heather says:

    If the wolf sees its mother, does that settle the question of whether the moose is going to get eaten?

  4. Adam says:

    Haha, this video is awesome. It’s like you can feel the wolf’s frustration. If I had to put thoughts into his/her head, it would be, “would you just move already!!!” S/he doesn’t know how to approach the situation. I’d like to hear interpretations of the down/scratching and other behaviors in terms of physical memory.

  5. kbehan says:

    It’s up to the Moose, the wolf would get more unresolved emotion resolved by being in sync with the Moose than by killing it, but this presumes a long term one on one interaction, as we see develop between dogs and horses. So if the Moose can mirror back the attraction the wolf feels for it, and then by virtue of their mutual syncopation the relationship develops into more and more complex interactions so that the environmental inputs become part of this emotional bond, as when dogs ride in cars with their owners, then they will become “best friends” just as I believe it happened between wolf and early man, most likely through the Shamanic wisdom not due to a desire to nurture cute little wolf cubs.

  6. kbehan says:

    Right, if there was more than one wolf, the force of attraction would be more direct in the wolves, and the emotional capacity of the moose would be more burdened, so the possibility of the interaction evolving into a complex syncopated state that doesn’t collapse into an instinct would be far less. But such a state of emotional suspension did happen and was sustained between wolves and early man, the precise mechanics of which we see everyday in the ways that dogs relate to their owners and in how the environment affects their mind.

  7. kbehan says:

    You hit the nail on the head. The physical memory is of running, triggered by the intensity of its attraction to the moose. If only the moose were running, then the wolf would be chasing with that same degree of intensity, and of course this goes back to its earliest litter experiences. So since the wolf is feeling the intensity of attraction that is equal to the physical memory of running, and since the moose isn’t moving, the wolf satisfies the physical memory by running in place. This will disturb the earth releasing musk odors (emotional grounds) and maybe even move a stick that then becomes a DISPLACED FOCUS onto an object of attraction and if only the moose could feel an attraction to that object, then they’d be talking.

  8. christine randolph says:

    i think it is significant that the wolf approaches slowly from behind the moose. (see monkeys only taking food when person turns their back).

    moose does a check by turning his head and decides wolf is not a threat. there might be a millisecond of eye contact there but it is not clear and not significant since moose decides at that moment to ignore wolf.

    wolf indeed is trying to go mostly unnoticed and is successful in attempting to communicate that he is not a thread, i.e. by lying low and moving slowly so that the moose will keep doing what it is doing and wolf can sneak under moose to complete what he has set out to do.

    moose can hear wolf rustling about, see the ear movement on the moose. moose is probably also listening intently to make sure there are not more wolves around.

    one wolf is OK but I do not see the moose standing quietly licking salt with a whole bunch of wolves bustling about within earshot

    i do think the wolf being quite small is aware of the fact that the moose has a lot of body mass which must not be provoked to launch itself in Wolf’s direction.

    wolf definitely wants something that is close to the moose.

    something the moose does not care about otherwise moose would make an effort to defend the item.

    I am guessing wolf might have a food cache there.

    Or some Estonian experimenter put meat out along with the salt for the moose because they wanted to film the moose and the wolf together to see what happens next.

    maybe this is not the first time the wolf and moose were set up like this and their behaviour is already “rehearsed”.

    Both animals might have advanced to being relaxed around each other, whereas in the first iteration they did a lot more eye contact anc sniffing, sussing each other out.

    Wolf could be concerned that the moose might raid his cache or just can smell the meat so he decides to crawl near and remove these items from the immediate vicinity of the moose. wolf is not hungry, looks like he is caching the food at the new location.

    he carries 2 items to that location and looks like at the end of the video is coming back for a third, each time approaching slowly from behind with no eye contact between these two animals.

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